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Flying Stars Interviews Nancy Brown about The Woman Who Was Chesterton
Flying Stars (FS): So how did you get interested in Frances
Chesterton?
Nancy: Years ago when I first became interested in G.K.
Chesterton, I read Joseph Pearce’s biography Wisdom and Innocence. I didn’t know anything about Chesterton at
that point, but he sounded a lot like my husband, whom I consider an artistic
genius. As a woman and a wife, I immediately was curious about Gilbert’s wife.
I knew that being the wife of any kind of genius has its own set of challenges,
and I wanted to know how Frances handled being the wife of the famous G.K.
Chesterton.
FS: What did you discover?
Nancy: Nothing of what I wanted to know. Oh there were
little snippets of information, like that she came from a London family. That
her father had died when she was a young girl. That her father was a diamond
merchant. I found out a few things from Gilbert’s point of view, like that he
fell in love with her the first time he saw her, that he wrote her love poetry,
that he depended on her to keep him on task and on schedule.
FS: What kind of information did you want to know about Frances?
Nancy: I wanted to know who was she that Gilbert could fall
in love with her. He was an extraordinary man; she had to be an extraordinary
woman. But there was nothing in the biography that indicated her
extraordinariness. I wanted to know how they came to love each other, how they
worked out their individual lives as a married couple, if Frances had a career
before she married him, and if she carried that on afterwards. I wanted to know
what skills she brought to the marriage, and how she was able to cope with
Gilbert’s absentmindedness without going crazy. I wanted to know how she had
enough patience to keep tying his tie every day. I could see that their day-to-day
life was very similar to my own.
FS: What do you mean?
Nancy: Gilbert basically worked from home. He did go into an
office once a week, but the rest of the days he woke up, had breakfast, and
then began dictating articles, books, and so on—at home. The day-to-day life of
Gilbert and Frances was together. Constantly. They were together a lot. And
some couples don’t do well being together that much. Often a wife is dependent
on having her own domain during the day while the husband goes off to work.
Like Gilbert’s essay on the “Emancipation of Domesticity” —which I love—a wife
is often the queen of her domain during the day. She can cook what she likes,
clean when she wants, and teach her children everything. But it’s a little
different for the queen if the king is at home all day.
FS: And your life is like that? Like Gilbert described?
Nancy: At first, my life was like that—I was queen of my
domain. My husband went off to work every day like most husbands. We had
decided to homeschool our children, so I was at home raising and educating
them. My husband and I would occasionally show his art at art shows on the
weekends, but then he would rush off to work again on Monday morning. I was the
queen of my world—until my husband was laid off of work. Instead of finding
another wage slave job, we decided we would do the Chestertonian thing and live
a distributist life by running our own small business and selling his art full
time. That’s when our lives began to resemble Gilbert and Frances’ very much.
FS: But the distributist life is ideal, everyone wants that
kind of life!
Nancy: Of course, and it is a wonderful life. But every spouse
has quirks, and perhaps artistic types have a few more quirks than your average.
Not that I don’t have any. I’m sure I do. Minor ones, of course. Somehow I just
felt that if Frances and I could sit down to tea, there would be a mutual
meeting of the minds over the challenges of our husbands.
FS: What would you and Frances say those challenges are?
Nancy: First, how to be with each other every hour of every
day. And not go crazy. Maybe how to find space for individual projects. I think
of how Frances found space eventually, in writing poems and plays, teaching
Sunday school, and helping the kids put on plays. She also ran a poetry circle,
gave talks, and did a lot of gardening. These were all ways in which she
maintained her sense of individual identity. She also had a genius for
friendship.
Secondly, I think one needs a lot of patience. I think
Frances cultivated the virtue of patience to a degree nearing perfection. She
took dictation from Gilbert. I can see her sitting with pen and paper, dipping
the pen in the ink, the pen poised just above the paper, just waiting for
Gilbert to let her know what the next sentence was going to be. And then she
had to wait for him to finish his essays so she could send them off to the
papers. She had to wait for him to dress, and eat, and smoke. I think she spent
a lot of her life waiting for him. Patiently. I want that kind of patience. I
want Frances to teach me that.
FS: Did you look at Frances’ family tree at all? Were there
any surprises?
Nancy: Yes, I did look, and she had a lot of famous
relatives. She was directly connected with famous poets, playwrights and
authors. Her family was much more connected to the literary world than
Gilbert’s. Gilbert came from a family of house agents and surveyors. Frances
was tied to people whom we no longer know, but at the time were quite famous.
Samuel Laman Blanchard, Douglas Jerrold, Mary Margaret Heaton and Cosmo Monkhouse, for example. Blanchard and Jerrold were intimate friends with William Makepeace Thakeray and Charles Dickens. In fact, Dickens was a pallbearer at
Blanchard’s funeral. Frances’s mother’s name was Blanche, named in remembrance
of this uncle, Laman Blanchard, who was a famous journalist in his day. Douglas
Jerrold was even more famous, because he was a journalist, a drama critic, a
playwright, and actor. His most famous play was Black-Eyed Susan. Jerrold sailed aboard a ship for a year and a
half under Captain Charles Austen—Jane Austen’s brother. He wrote plays; he
wrote articles for Punch, and he
coined the phrase ‘Crystal Palace’ for the beautiful crystal building Paxton was
building for the Great Exhibition of 1851. He was said to be the funniest man
in London at the time he wrote his comic plays.
FS: What about this diamond business of Frances’s father’s?
Nancy: That was very interesting to investigate. Frances’s
father, George Blogg, was indeed a diamond merchant, as were his father,
grandfather and great-grandfathers before him. They were also all makers of
find gold chains, and so considered artisans. Frances’s maternal grandfather and
great grandfather were silk printers, what we would now call silk screening. They
created beautiful silk products, including souvenir type scarves and kerchiefs.
In addition, they were glaziers, so they were making things out of glass, and
possibly doing stained glass work. Her grandfather’s business was so big he
employed ninety people. So on both Frances’ mother’s and her father’s sides of
the family, there were fine craft artisans. In fact, that’s possibly how her
parents met.
FS: Did you find out anything shocking about Frances?
Nancy: Sort of. I discovered within her medical files
something that explained a lot about her health, which always seemed fragile.
During her teen growth spurt, one of her legs grew longer than the other. So
from then on, she walked with a limp, and was always fighting this off balance
situation. It wasn’t till she was in her fifties that a doctor recommended
getting a lift in the shoe of the shorter leg. Meanwhile, her spine, hips,
pelvis—everything was out of alignment because of the leg. But don’t tell
anyone that, because I’m saving that piece of information for the book.
FS: That is interesting, and I’ll keep it mum. Did you find
out anything about Frances’s past? Did she have any boyfriends before Gilbert
came along, for example?
Nancy: I have to admit that I actually don’t know the answer
to the question about former boyfriends. You can see from her picture that
Frances was a beauty. I mean she was really
pretty. However, I don’t know if, because of her limp, was she less attractive
to boys? I just don’t know. But surprisingly, Frances and her family found a
way to mix and mingle with all the eligible young men in the neighborhood
anyway.
FS: What was that?
Nancy: They started a debate club. I’m sure this was one of
the things that Frances and Gilbert talked about when they first met. But in
the early 1890s—before she ever met Gilbert—Frances and her Bedford Park
friends formed a debate club called the “I.D.K. Debating Society.” They met in
each other’s homes, chose a topic, and debated for the evening. Once a year,
they held a dance for all members and their friends. One year, the dance was in
the Blogg home.
FS: What did “I.D.K.” stand for?
Nancy: I don’t know.
FS: Oh, ok. Was this debate club where Frances and Gilbert
met?
Nancy: Surprisingly, no! They did meet at the Blogg home, at
8 Bath Road in Bedford Park, but it was not during an IDK meeting. However,
after they met, Gilbert did start attending the IDK meetings. In fact, he was a
regular. He lost a debate there.
FS: Now how do you actually know that?
Nancy: I discovered the notebook in a library special
collection where Frances and her sister Ethel took the minutes of their monthly
meetings. They kept track of who attended, who the proposer was, who the opposer
was, who was the chairman of the meeting. They collected a small amount for
dues, and kept track of that, as well. Many of the famous artists and painters
who lived in the area at that time participated in the debate club at the Blogg
home.
FS: That’s cool! What was the debate Chesterton lost?
Nancy: That a man’s character is his fate. The proposer
argued that character was a sense of ethical qualities that define a man. Fate
is destiny. A man is given a certain character in which he starts out life, and
so he makes his own fate. Chesterton strongly opposed this argument, saying the
notion was false, disastrous and immoral; that it severed us from all that
makes ethical life valuable. He reminded the debating society that there were
many things which contribute to man’s fate besides his character. These included the characters of other
people, such as our parents, our teachers, our friends—the great minds of our
day; and there are circumstances over which we have no control. If we believed
that we stood in a position of independence from all other people—Chesterton
said this is characteristic of the mindset of the day—this leads man to think
he is his own God Almighty. This leads to an unhappy frame of mind edged with
egoism. Despite Chesterton’s strong argument, he lost the vote. The I.D.K.
Society apparently believed a man’s character was his fate. But I should remind everyone that Chesterton was
possibly the youngest member of the debating society, at this time he was just
twenty-two years old. It’s probable he didn’t have his power of persuasive
speech developed to its greatness yet.
FS: So why should people get The Woman Who Was Chesterton?
Nancy: I think the most important reason is because Frances
was the most important person in Gilbert’s life. She was the most important
relationship he had, and their marriage was the most important thing in both
their lives. To find out more about Frances means we find out more about
Gilbert as a person. Yes, he was a great writer and gave us great books, but to
know Gilbert as a person is perhaps even more interesting than just reading his
books. And once you know him as a person, his books become more enjoyable. And
to know him better, we need to get to know his wife. I hope everyone will enjoy getting to know Frances better.
FS: Thank you, Nancy!
Friday, November 13, 2015
A Peek Into Top Meadow: Christmas with the Chestertons
My Christmas gift to you, my readers. I hope you enjoy. --Nancy
Christmas with the Chestertons
While contemplating the Christmas Holidays, I thought I’d
like to peek in at Top Meadow, the home of our friends Gilbert and Frances
Chesterton out in Beaconsfield, and see what the holiday couple might be doing
for Christmas this year. Why don’t you come along?
I only thought of taking this trip because of Dickens. Our
friend Chesterton fell in love with Charles Dickens’ work at a very young age,
and contributed greatly to a revival of Dickens. Because of the renewed
interest in Dickens, there was a renewed interest in Dickens’ work A Christmas Carol. Originally published
in 1843, extremely popular during its day, after Dickens died in 1870, the work
languished. In 1906, Chesterton himself revived an interest in Dickens by
writing quite a lot about the author.
So, in reference to Dickens, it could be said that the
Chestertons know how to “keep” Christmas. Their holidays are always filled with
friends, family, plays, music, conversation, food, spirits, and gifts. Let’s
take a peek in the door. No, let’s do more than peek as long as we’ve made the
train journey; let’s knock and hope the couple is at home. They are.
Entering the front door at Top Meadow, you and I, the guests
of Gilbert and Frances Chesterton, are warmly greeted, our coats and hats taken
and hung up, and hot cider or another warm beverage pressed into our hands. We’ve
wiped our shoes, and come in closer to the hearth, and we’re invited to sit by
the crackling fire.
Gilbert and Frances make us feel immediately at home, and we
notice Christmas decorations everywhere. Frances collects nativity scenes from
around the world, and there is a different one set up in each room of the
house. There are presents under the tree, and a few of them are for us—how did
they know we were coming?! A plate of beautifully decorated cookies is sitting
on the table in front of us; Frances insists we have some, and we do—they are
delicious. After warming up, gifts are exchanged, and Gilbert suggests we all
sing carols, and so we sing.
Then a knock is heard at the door, and the neighborhood
children come in, and Frances shoos them into the studio where they are
preparing costumes, props, and rehearsing last minute. They will put on a play
for all of the adults this evening. Winkle the dog is barking, hoping you’ll
toss him a little bit of that cookie you’re eating. Two cats are purring at
your feet, begging to have their ears scratched.
While we’re all waiting for the children to get the play
ready, Gilbert lights a cigarillo, makes a large sign of the cross in the air
with the smoke, and offers you one if you’d like. He pours a bit of burgundy
for anyone who wants it, and then asks you to pass the cookie plate back his
way. He pulls out a well worn copy of A
Christmas Carol from his coat pocket, and asks if you’d like him to read
from it. Everyone wants to hear Gilbert read.
He reads with expression, in between drags of the
cigarillo, and one particular time, proves that he does indeed know how to
blow smoke rings. As he reads, he is reminded—during that part where the
gentlemen come in and ask Ebenezer to contribute to their campaign for the
poor—that he and Frances are collecting for the local nursing home this
Christmas—St. Joseph’s Convalescent Home—and Gilbert has a tin in which you can
place your donation. You do so, quite willingly, because it is Gilbert asking.
After this pause, he continues to read. His voice turns quite rough when he
becomes Ebenezer Scrooge, and quite high and quiet when he becomes Tiny Tim.
But before he even gets to the first ghost, Frances opens the door and
announces that the children are ready.
We all enter the studio, and the children put on a play that
Frances Chesterton wrote for tonight’s visit, called The Christmas Gift. The costumes are wonderful, the children do a
fine job with memorization, and they sing Christmas carols in between quite a
few of the scene changes, asking the audience to join along. Holly is strung
all along the walls, and a small bunch of mistletoe is hanging from a strategic
place in the center of a doorframe you can’t help passing under. You are kissed.
Flowering plants line the table near the window, and the nativity scene in this
room came from Spain.
When the children finish, Frances brings out more cookies,
cakes, biscuits, pies and best of all, chocolates; there is more cider and some
hot buttered rum as well. A few of the children have brought small instruments,
and they play more carols, and everyone sings. Frances would like to return to
the hearth, and so we all go back to the main room, where a little fairy must
have put a few more logs on the fire while we were away. One of the children
asks Frances to read her poem How Far IsIt To Bethlehem, and she says she knows it well by heart, and recites it
for us, and by the end all the women are wiping tears. We all clap, and Frances
is embarrassed, and says, “Gilbert, do something!”
We remind Gilbert to finish reading the Dickens’ story, and
he does, with great wit and charm, keeping us all entertained and laughing
alternatively with crying. The story ends with a flourish, and God bless us, everyone,
we have, indeed, kept Christmas at Top Meadow this year. What a nice visit
we’ve had with the Chestertons. Let’s all do this again next year.
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